It about Vela ,Extorah

[DEMONIK-]

In 1.08b Vela is balance , late game vela is brutal

i buy mass AS 6 , i think no one cant escape vela

Vela has Bone prison , best skill for support creeps

to attack ( range & melee ) and have rune condition and swap

But in 1.09 Vela is going down ,the Prison have change

Item for Attack speed is 8 fac . How i can buy it for 6 slot

that is impossible for 1 game that i think


Many hero of DOE have magic type skill and Bone Prison have

200 hitpoint and Armor has change to Heavy Armor but good at 8 sec all lvl

the prison can be in 3-4 sec or less than it be


Now Vela are not good at Late game , People know they run away from corps

What Vela have Bone Prison,Ruin&Many Attack Speed in late game , NO VELA NOT HAVE it now


ps I really like VELA every time i play i choose Vela ( you can ask assassingao ) but in this Ver

i dont want to play Vela . VELA just left a dust from her prison

ps2 i'm thai and not good at English if you dont understand plz assassingao will explain it to you.


SEE you in the day it VELA has rise !

[Hell_Tempest]

First of all, the attack speed thing is still ink the basic shop. And, second of all, the eight faction attack speed enhancer that you are talking about is possible to get in one game if you are in pretty much any in-house where your or the other team does not make silly mistakes.a And, the whole point of Vela is to catch people with their pants down. Regardless of whether they run away from corpses or not, running right up to them and trying to use your ability isn't a good idea. You sneak up behind them, use Rigor Mortis, Bone Cage them, and then with the ruin start attacking them.

I've also found it kinda better when somebody else is there to attack them, since with the ruin and all...and it's also funny to TTransversal the enemy right into towers then Bone Cage them.

[Beat_Down_]

I like the armor change, before at later levels you were pretty much in that thing for the whole duration unless you had some decent damage like fireball.

Now velas still the same but not able to just rape everyone in bone cage.

[Hell_Tempest]

I like the armor change, before at later levels you were pretty much in that thing for the whole duration unless you had some decent damage like fireball.

Now velas still the same but not able to just rape everyone in bone cage.

Exactly. Before, I've always considered her "The Assist" hero. She's so good at getting assists, (Bone Cage, Bleed, Transversal) and allowing other heroes with a bigger damage output to finish them off. Now, I haven't played Vela since, maybe 1.07, but I still think she is a very good hero, and have seen people rape with her in 1.09.

[Flameboy]

1. I thought the balance was in other section
2. The Attack speed item is 200 gold, not 8 faction. And its the same for all heroes ya know, if they stack up 48 faction worth of items, they'll own.
3. I really thought bone prison was overpowered, for those who didn't get it yet. Haven't had the chance to try the new one yet.
4. The whole point of rigor mortis is that its situational. Thats why you use your head and transversal your opponents on corpse (on or a pitfalled skittel, thats pretty funny too)
5. You have to understand not every hero is there to have 300 kills by the end of the game (meant to type 30 but 300 is fine I guess). Some heroes are meant to just set other heroes up. Like bone prison + sunder. Bone prison + EoD. Bone prison + Taint. Did I mention Bone prison really synergizes with so many hero?

[Hell_Tempest]

1. I thought the balance was in other section
2. The Attack speed item is 200 gold, not 8 faction. And its the same for all heroes ya know, if they stack up 48 faction worth of items, they'll own.
3. I really thought bone prison was overpowered, for those who didn't get it yet. Haven't had the chance to try the new one yet.
4. The whole point of rigor mortis is that its situational. Thats why you use your head and transversal your opponents on corpse (on or a pitfalled skittel, thats pretty funny too)
5. You have to understand not every hero is there to have 300 kills by the end of the game (meant to type 30 but 300 is fine I guess). Some heroes are meant to just set other heroes up. Like bone prison + sunder. Bone prison + EoD. Bone prison + Taint. Did I mention Bone prison really synergizes with so many hero?

That's why I call her the assist hero. She synergizes with so many heroes, and has many opportunities to pop in, bone cage `em, and then let other heroes do the dirty work while she gets a couple hits in.

[Greenspawn]

Now velas still the same but not able to just rape everyone in bone cage.

Definately. It's really easy to escape from as Tristan (just issue a move order out of the cage or attack the bones and you leave immediately).

[assassingao]

I haven't got a chance to try her out yet, but DEMONIK- said that the bone prison was also nerfed, he cannot attack enemies within.

But I'll try her out if I got a chance to play :p.

[DEMONIK-]

i test it already , it can atk but sometimes it cant


i dont know why. i think

[Soul_Reaver]

Here's my suggestion: When the Bone Prison breaks, it extends nearby enemy units Cripple condition by 2. (on all levels)
This would add at least a bit of usefulness against heroes like Glyphe, who can break the prison in one cast, and even manage to damage Vela in the process.

[assassingao]

Here's my suggestion: When the Bone Prison breaks, it extends nearby enemy units Cripple condition by 2. (on all levels)
This would add at least a bit of usefulness against heroes like Glyphe, who can break the prison in one cast, and even manage to damage Vela in the process.

Then it would feels like forced cripple.

[VZManticoran]

Plus... With 8 of those, that's 16 second cripple....

[assassingao]

Even if it applies 2 seconds cripple, I will say it's imba.

1 sec cripple so someone can catch up plz.

[SetaSoujirou]

I believe he meant extended 2 second cripple when the whole bone prison shatters, not each individual bone breaking.

[VZManticoran]

I dunno, extended (Smaller than 1) second cripple with each bone would be a kind of fun mechanic, though. Make it so enemies around it are crippled, but the one in the center is severely crippled.