Refraction

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Re: Refraction

Post by TheDeathstalker » Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:09 am

While I personally don't see it being in need of change, but... if it were to need one, I'd say making it cause any blinded unit to when miss deal x% of that damage to itself would be fun, and not really be tacked on... at least not conceptually, what with reflection and refraction being different results of the same thing (only difference is the theta)
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Re: Refraction

Post by Phox » Fri Oct 10, 2008 2:45 am

Meh, it needs nothing extra. It's brilliant in it's simplicity, and really useful. Why does it need anything else?

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Re: Refraction

Post by Merlin » Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:52 am

Merlin wrote:I agree, it's an excellent ultimate. What bothers me though is that ranks 2 and 3 are hardly better than rank 1.

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Re: Refraction

Post by Rising_Dusk » Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:24 am

I've won games because of that 100 range, so if you really think it's not good enough I need more than a complaint. The second level is a 56% area increase over the first level, and that does translate to in-game.
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Re: Refraction

Post by Merlin » Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:23 am

Rising_Dusk wrote:I've won games because of that 100 range, so if you really think it's not good enough I need more than a complaint.
Pretty hard to believe, but I'll take you at your word. I don't have a suggestion for improving the scaling yet.

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Re: Refraction

Post by SetaSoujirou » Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:37 am

I hope you've seen the scenario where your unit mass is clogging the small base entrance, and you're there to refraction the frontlines. Maybe even cloak Verte in his ult while you're at it.
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Re: Refraction

Post by Rising_Dusk » Fri Oct 10, 2008 10:32 am

Yeah, see above, it's really not hard to believe.
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Re: Refraction

Post by Jirinal » Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:20 am

Its an pretty awesome ultimate, though it depends on the enemy and how smart he is to detect the incoming danger.
You can do alot of damage with his ultimate, also the hero itself got good tanking capacility and it isnt even a channel spell, so he can heal himself and nuke weaker heroes or creeps.

If you want to improve it how about this:

If the hero is suffering a condition he will become invisible.

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Re: Refraction

Post by Loki » Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:21 pm

Deleted both of your posts. Both of you, quit being smartasses. We have rules for a reason.
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Re: Refraction

Post by Hell_Tempest » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:27 pm

Refraction honestly needs to change at all. How cool is it when you cloak a dragon and a golem while they are attacking the dragons, only to have other heros defend you while they are cloaked and you heal them? It's twinking awesome when people can't even see what is happening to their base.
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Re: Refraction

Post by Rising_Dusk » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:35 pm

It's even better when SotN Anick bursts in with Bloodlines under cover of infraction and the enemies don't even know he's there.
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Re: Refraction

Post by Hell_Tempest » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:27 pm

And when malth is under cover of refraction and all of a sudden a huge meteor comes down and kills everyone...possibilities are endless.
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Re: Refraction

Post by Crevax » Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:59 pm

Suddenly all your creeps disappear as they fall under the influence of Vert.
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Re: Refraction

Post by Rising_Dusk » Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:52 pm

I just think seeing the lightning from Vert's ult without Vert being visible scares the hell out of me. xD
As Kassar I try to hoof it to his location and get bodyblocked by creeps, then owned. :<
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Re: Refraction

Post by Hell_Tempest » Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:02 pm

When you said hoof I immediately thought of Zhall, lol.

But yeah, it's happened to me many times as I get creepblocked by invis creeps and then WTF as three heros nuke me at once.
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