Items: Round 2
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Maybe make an active skill out of them, that doubles their effects for X seconds?
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Timelock Armlet
- Remove all conditions on the user for X seconds and grant Immunity to all conditions for Y seconds. After Y seconds, inflict all conditions removed for Z% (more than 100) of their original durations.
- Inflicts the condition that was last inflicted onto youself onto the target for X seconds.
- Whenever a condition ends, you become Immune to that condition for X seconds
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Against popular belief, turning everything into an active skill does not make it more fun or more useful.assassingao wrote:Maybe make an active skill out of them, that doubles their effects for X seconds?
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It just helps Seta out.Rising_Dusk wrote:Against popular belief, turning everything into an active skill does not make it more fun or more useful.assassingao wrote:Maybe make an active skill out of them, that doubles their effects for X seconds?
And rawr, thanks for the card <33
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Quick Idea before I go to bed...
Masochist's Trinket: Increases all physical damage taken by X (25?)%, but also returns that much to the attacking unit.
Masochist's Trinket: Increases all physical damage taken by X (25?)%, but also returns that much to the attacking unit.
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A custom thorns item for a specific damage type could actually be quite cool.
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I think I suggested these type of items before a while ago. But basically items that gain bonuses from attacking targets with conditions. Allows alot more interaction & combo's between heroes.
Amputator:
+X damage (can be something else like agility etc.)
Deals +Y damage if target is bleeding.
or
Deals +Y% of targets current health in damage if target is bleeding
or
Gain +Y% damage for Z seconds, if you attack a bleeding target.
or
Gain +Y% attack speed for Z seconds, if you attack a bleeding target.
Fire Rod:
+X intelligence (can be something else like mana etc.)
Gain +Y mana if target is burning
or
Extend Burn on target by +Y seconds (Possibly also steal/claim burn as your own for hero killing purposes).
These are just random examples, the names & effects obviously should be altered & improved.
But something along these lines could work out great.
Amputator:
+X damage (can be something else like agility etc.)
Deals +Y damage if target is bleeding.
or
Deals +Y% of targets current health in damage if target is bleeding
or
Gain +Y% damage for Z seconds, if you attack a bleeding target.
or
Gain +Y% attack speed for Z seconds, if you attack a bleeding target.
Fire Rod:
+X intelligence (can be something else like mana etc.)
Gain +Y mana if target is burning
or
Extend Burn on target by +Y seconds (Possibly also steal/claim burn as your own for hero killing purposes).
These are just random examples, the names & effects obviously should be altered & improved.
But something along these lines could work out great.
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I never suggested the numbers but I see what you mean. Still there should be atleast one enhancer for each condition type.Rising_Dusk wrote:I still think they really don't have any potential for seeing use even if they can be upgraded. I mean, 50% more cripple/mute is ridiculous, 66% stun reduction may as well be immunity with Crown. I see some... Issues, in that way of thinking.
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And there always will be, Des, in Crown of the Ages.
Also, I don't want to just repeat effects with different conditions for their use. That's pretty boring.
You had, but I'm hesitant because they enforce the same limited usability as the booster items. I mean, they're only really plausible items for heroes that wield the respective conditions (effectively), which sort of defeats the purpose of items. I'm a believer that these items should be viable options for any of the heroes. Granted, some heroes don't deal physical damage, so they can't use, say, Dragonfang Trident, but a vast number can. I can count on one hand the number of heroes in the map that wield bleed in such a manner to make an item requiring it useful.Fulla wrote:I think I suggested these type of items before a while ago. But basically items that gain bonuses from attacking targets with conditions. Allows alot more interaction & combo's between heroes.
Also, I don't want to just repeat effects with different conditions for their use. That's pretty boring.
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Eternity's arms
Any conditions applied by the hero has X% chance to be extended by Y/Y% seconds.
Useful for any hero, except Anick, boo.
Will of the Weak
The hero has increased movespeed for each/any condition suffered.
Fearbind
Any damage done by this hero (to units with condition, of course) has X% chance to burn Y mana as well.
Any conditions applied by the hero has X% chance to be extended by Y/Y% seconds.
Useful for any hero, except Anick, boo.
Will of the Weak
The hero has increased movespeed for each/any condition suffered.
Fearbind
Any damage done by this hero (to units with condition, of course) has X% chance to burn Y mana as well.
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Ah yes, but you only need 1 guy on your team to apply that specific condition for your items to gain bonuses.
Granted this may be to situational, there can ofcourse always be hydrid items such as:
Kroeger Blade:
Grants +4 Agility
If you attack a target with bleed, you gain +15% attack speed for 5 seconds
If you attack a target with burn, you gain +15% damage for 5 seconds.
Ofcourse this is just a completely random example, where I just threw in some stats.
I truly do think it has alot of potential thou, where you can look at your team, do a bit of thinking & see which conditions can be created, then pick 1 of these items accordingly.
Heroes can also pair up nicely, like say Rose & Arrow Kree, Rose with this item could have great benefits in that situation.
Several hydrids are possible, combining alot of different conditions, encouraging more teamwork.
Granted this may be to situational, there can ofcourse always be hydrid items such as:
Kroeger Blade:
Grants +4 Agility
If you attack a target with bleed, you gain +15% attack speed for 5 seconds
If you attack a target with burn, you gain +15% damage for 5 seconds.
Ofcourse this is just a completely random example, where I just threw in some stats.
I truly do think it has alot of potential thou, where you can look at your team, do a bit of thinking & see which conditions can be created, then pick 1 of these items accordingly.
Heroes can also pair up nicely, like say Rose & Arrow Kree, Rose with this item could have great benefits in that situation.
Several hydrids are possible, combining alot of different conditions, encouraging more teamwork.
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You're right, but it's one thing to combo with a team mate, it's another thing entirely to rely upon them. I'll give it some thought, though, mayhaps I could snake a single item of that type in for a common condition, but I'd by no means make 8 of them spanning all conditions.
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Cuirass of Recoil
Whenever you are stunned or knocked down, so are all enemies around you.
Whenever you are stunned or knocked down, so are all enemies around you.
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Soultwined Brooch
Voodoo Doll
- Links X units in a chain. Whenever a unit in the chain suffers from a condition, it is reduced to X% and Y% of the duration is applied to all units in the chain.
Voodoo Doll
- Extends all conditions the target is suffering by 1 every second whilst channelled.
- Increases your attack damage by X% for each conditions you suffer from, and an additional Y% if you suffer from Maim.
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Perhaps something that causes conditions for, say, 25 or 50% of their duration whenever it is inflicted on you around you, with the cost that conditions last 25 or 50% longer on you as well.
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