1.10c Discussion

[Rising_Dusk]

Dis can stun himself when using Distruction with the dragonfang trident. (And you're suffering a condition)

Trade-off 101.

[Rectifier]

I believe that is an "oh snap" rebuttal.

[SetaSoujirou]

It's not like I mind it back firing on Dis, as the blinding boots make him RAPE. Besides, with cripple stun is fairly useless anyway.

[FannyShaver]

My feedback;

I do play DoE very often on Europe, and I think that my feedback might be useful.
I think that there should be some kind of item (kinda ward) showing invisible units, good for Tristan and Atrius. Right now there is optic amulet, working on the way similar to faerie fire, but if I won't use it on the ghost-fella before he will go he's invis, he will just disappear and go home to heal - which I think is bullshit. Another thing connected with Tristan is Umbra, should have a bit shorter range, I think 400 would be all right, and path of shadows should have like 10 second cooldown.

Other thing is, the way of winning the match, usually targeting northern or southern outpost, and if guys can defend themselves later, they will just guard their home, and wait for the units to destroy enemy city from the sides. Isn't it better to let units run from the city? Like in DotA? I think there could be some sort of outpost overthere, meant to protect the fountain only, if lost, enemy takes the control of the fountain and we have lost trebuchet. I think this is good prize, because our enemy will have an access to his fountain lot closer. Crumbling the fountain in the city is also bad idea in my opinion.

I'm finding DoE lot better than DotA since I played it for the first time, just because in DotA it's items, that are worth a lot, in DoE those are spells, so there's no overfed chars really, as those can be killed easily, whoever played DotA for a while knows, that overfed Sven means game over. In DoE ietms counts, but not as much as in DotA. Just because of that I'm finding it more balanced.

[SetaSoujirou]

My feedback;

I do play DoE very often on Europe, and I think that my feedback might be useful.
I think that there should be some kind of item (kinda ward) showing invisible units, good for Tristan and Atrius. Right now there is optic amulet, working on the way similar to faerie fire, but if I won't use it on the ghost-fella before he will go he's invis, he will just disappear and go home to heal - which I think is bullshit. Another thing connected with Tristan is Umbra, should have a bit shorter range, I think 400 would be all right, and path of shadows should have like 10 second cooldown.

Other thing is, the way of winning the match, usually targeting northern or southern outpost, and if guys can defend themselves later, they will just guard their home, and wait for the units to destroy enemy city from the sides. Isn't it better to let units run from the city? Like in DotA? I think there could be some sort of outpost overthere, meant to protect the fountain only, if lost, enemy takes the control of the fountain and we have lost trebuchet. I think this is good prize, because our enemy will have an access to his fountain lot closer. Crumbling the fountain in the city is also bad idea in my opinion.

I'm finding DoE lot better than DotA since I played it for the first time, just because in DotA it's items, that are worth a lot, in DoE those are spells, so there's no overfed chars really, as those can be killed easily, whoever played DotA for a while knows, that overfed Sven means game over. In DoE ietms counts, but not as much as in DotA. Just because of that I'm finding it more balanced.

Invis detection is good enough. You get blind immunity, so boohoo.
Tristan is not imba, people just fail to kill him.
I don't understand your idea of 'let units run from the city' so I will disregard that.
The fountain-outpost thing is silly, DoE is meant to be quickly paced. And the idea is too similar to the generator of AotZ anyway.
No overfed chars really. Lulz. You haven't seen me!
Incorrect, anyone overfed in DotA means game over.

[Phox]

I don't understand your idea of 'let units run from the city' so I will disregard that.

I think he means that all creeps should spawn from the main base, rather then from the outposts.

[SetaSoujirou]

I don't understand your idea of 'let units run from the city' so I will disregard that.

I think he means that all creeps should spawn from the main base, rather then from the outposts.

That's silly. That's WHY you break the outposts to begin with.

[Tupolev]

That's silly. That's WHY you break the outposts to begin with.

Indeed. But the point Fanny was trying to make was that the game ends too fast from outpost smashing.

Which is interesting, because DoE's fairly fast full games even in reasonably fair situations is one thing that makes it awesome IMO.

[Deschain]

No overfed chars really. Lulz. You haven't seen me!

Obesity doesn't count Seta.

[Rising_Dusk]

Would anyone be terribly averse if I just released 1.11 without any Tristan/Janise remakes? It's all done except for that, and I feel like I've kept you all waiting long enough as it is.

[snakehawk37]

Would anyone be terribly averse if I just released 1.11 without any Tristan/Janise remakes? It's all done except for that, and I feel like I've kept you all waiting long enough as it is.

Like anyone would say no!

[SetaSoujirou]

Janise is cool as is. I'm not bitching about Tristan.

[Phox]

Uhm, sure. I mean, you can always release those in the future...

[TheDeathstalker]

I agree with everyone else, on the go ahead and release it front. Not really too sure as to what the changes Janise and Tristan are even, but I'm sure things will be perfectly fine without them. Not to mention, we're all anxiously waiting for the new items.

[SetaSoujirou]

I agree with everyone else, on the go ahead and release it front. Not really too sure as to what the changes Janise and Tristan are even, but I'm sure things will be perfectly fine without them. Not to mention, we're all anxiously waiting for the new items.

More like a reason to play DoE again. Lolz.